I came home from an overnight in the Hocking Hills to see much discussion about swans. So I want to report that I saw several swans at Lake Logan and most notably and close up was a swan with an entirely black bill and to my view a v-shape above its black bill. There was no sign of a yellow lore.... This swan was in the company of a couple of mute swans--all at the first dock area as you drive in off of 674. This black-billed swan also had a little wash of golden-brown feathers like an immature...but the bill was solid black. I can't believe it could be a trumpeter but maybe someone down in that area could check it out. No sign of banding. Also saw hooded mergansers, gadwall, kingfisher, great-blue heron, lots of coots, bald eagle and of course Canada geese and mallards, including some crossed with domestic ducks. Dale Brubeck ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]