Both Black-tailed gull and snowy owl are still in Ashtabula. Black-tailed gull seen today by standing at the small roofed shelter up hill at very west end of Lake Shore Park and looking west onto roof of blue building. Other birders saw in am. I saw at around 3 pm. Snowy owl seen at a great distance from there also but better seen from location "C" on Jen Brumfield's map ( http://northnw.wordpress.com/bt- gull/ ) and looking northwest. It was sitting on railroad tracks. Also at a distance requiring spotting scope but better view than at Lake Shore park. ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]