Hi Everyone, Based upon my observation of the Say's Phoebe Saturday and subsequent behavior I offer the following suggestions for observation: The bird appears shy. After Jerry and Suzanne initially found the bird it disappeared when larger groups of people showed up. It re appeared when there were just 3 of us in the dunes (we were along the cottonwoods) and disappeared again when that number increased to 10, and people started trying to get closer looks by venturing out on the paths. When there were just 3 of us it came as close as the dunes pond, but once the number doubled it did not come that close, favoring the areas farthest from us. As people moved to get pictures the bird moved more frequently. I kind of figured the bird would be re found today because there are not many people around. Yesterday, with lots of people out beating the dunes, it stayed hidden. If you try for this bird my suggestion is to take a lawn chair and be patient. Park yourself along the cottonwoods and wait for the bird to show. Don't go looking for it as it may spook again. It may eventually become habituated to people, but based upon Saturday's and Sunday's behavior it seems to not like being looked at. Good luck Haans Petruschke Kirtland ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]