I spent several hours today at Hoover Reservoir in search of the gull in question, and found it on the docks just above the dam at about 4:10 pm. I believe this is the same location where it was found, and the same location where Bill Whan saw the gull. I noticed the immaculate plumage of this bird, as Bill did. The white parts were bright white. When I saw it there was a Herring Gull nearby in similar plumage. The gull in question was definitely a darker shade of gray than the Herring Gull. At one time there was an immature Herring Gull beside the subject gull, and a Ring-billed Gull on a "shelf" immediately behind the subject gull. The subject Gull was definitely an intermediate size. The legs were definitely yellow, although not a bright a yellow as shown in Sibley. There might have been a tinge of green, but I probably wouldn't have noticed that if I was not looking for it. The eye appeared dark, with perhaps a slight red ring. I did not see any light area, but I was not a close as Bill. I don't want to doubt Bill's observation, but I would raise the possibility that there was light reflection which gave the appearance of a light iris. I also have some digiscope photos, although my view was directly to the front of the bird. I will try to get them posted tomorrow for everyone's perusal. I am not sure why there is doubt as to the identity of this bird. Is there any gull other than California Gull this could be? I realize the OBRC will have to make the final decision, but I am pretty well convinced. Gene Stauffer Grove City ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]