Hi all My first post and I've followed with interest the thread on the White-faced vs. Glossy Ibis. I think it was Kenn who said of the three one is a White-faced; others have agreed. My experience with White-faced comes from many western states (although I did document the first Mid Atlantic record many years ago). I was going to say that the pictures I was looking at showed a larger heavier bird, esp. the head and neck until I ran through them all and found a couple (July 15) with them together. The red-eyed bird in those shots did not give me that same impression. I am not sure that would be a negative factor anyway from these photos. Basically, to me, I see a 2nd cycle ibis with a red eye. I live I have seen the red eye on a White-faced Ibis stand out like a beacon. I have sifted through thousands of Glossies and stop now and then thinking that is reddish, that one is reddish, so on. But the clear pure red eye of a White-faced stands out a long ways; even in overcast at > 100 yds. with binocs it stands out. Reminds me of the eye on a male Brewer's Blackbird compared to that of a male Rusty. Even the facial region looks pinkish giving the whole head a pale face unlike the Glossies gray tone which gives it an overall dull dark face. Anyway, I got the feeling that the conclusion was basically the same for the same reasons; I have no issue with it being a White-faced Ibis. So good work to all and way to key out two similar species! Last night, Patty and I went north to Prairie and than to Glacier for owl and our luck continues to be meager. We did have one Great Horned Owl and one Barn Owl, the latter coursing over agricultural fields along Cty Hwy 16 near Glacier. Now, we saw two opposum and a dozen rabbits so there is plenty of food for Great Horned Owls here. In the east I could find Great Horned's in subdivions calling from the top of appartment buildings and by driving a hundred yds. down any quiet road. What gives? Even at BDGW off Big Darby Rd. I've only heard two in the last month in the forest lining Big Darby Creek. Tracy, that is a beautiful photo of one of the sedge Wrens at the wetlands. Nice work...... David Tan [log in to unmask] Columbus ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]