I have seen two flocks, 3 and 4 birds that were definitely cave swallows. I've also had a couple more unidentified and 1 barn swallow. So far 11 unidentified that were probably cave swallow. All are heading west and so far all flocks have been 4 or less birds. John Pogacnik 4765 Lockwood Road Perry, OH 44081 ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]