Randy, I echo Jen's comments. Today was pretty incredible. I remember another day back in the 1980s when there was a spectacular scoter and brant flight. We watched it from the Huron-Vermilion area. That day was unbelievable, today was better. The fascinating thing about lake watching is every day is different. It is rare where two consecutive days are similar. Today's birds may have moved on or they may linger on the lake awhile and may end up moving back and forth. Then again we could get a new batch of birds tomorrow and Monday and Tuesday. These next few days may bring a lot of surprises. If anything, people should be watching for the eiders reported today. I lean heavily toward common eider for the bird I saw. The three unidentified ducks I saw may have been common eiders as well. Common eider is such a rare bird on Lake Erie that I do feel confident calling one in flight from that distance, let alone four. I have seen several king eiders through the years and these birds struck me as different. I would recommend watching the lake from high bluffs in the morning and then check harbors and sheltered areas when the lake movement slows down. It is still windy here so things may be interesting tomorrow. Good luck John Pogacnik 4765 Lockwood Road Perry, OH 44081 ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]