I saw that more scoters were being seen at Sims Park yesterday so I went there today around 1:15pm. The lake was flat. I stood near the concrete bench west of the pier and counted 24 scoters in a long line straight out. Then a boat approached from the west but further out and they all dispersed every which way and were much further out. So I didn't bother counting again. There could of been more out there. Here is what I could see: Black Scoters 15 Surf Scoters 2 (at least but not much more - lot of White-winged look like Surf White-winged Scoters 7 Lesser Scaup 7 (some mixed in with scoters) Bufflehead Common Goldeneye 7 Red-breasted Mergansers - not huge numbers Horned Grebes 50+ (stopped counting at 50) Common Loons 2 (seen by Marian & Jeffrey Kraus Bonaparte's Gulls - most seem to be at Eastlake Power Plant Saturday 11/17 there was one Surf Scoter at Villa Angela in front of rock piles in front of mobile home park Nancy Anderson Richmond Hts, OH http://www.flickr.com/photos/nancy_a/ ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]