While this is probably no longer applicable to the Varied Thrush, birders should think a little bit about the residents when in residential areas. If you were a resident, what would you feel more comfortable with? A group of people with optics and cameras and optics, more or less in the same place acting with common purpose, or a bunch of individuals with optics and cameras wandering willy nilly on your streets and public areas with no apparent purpose. In this case nearly a week from the time the bird was found until all permissions were in place and everyone informed. This showed considerable restrain, forethought and consideration on the part of Ms. Stevens. Now that the Varied Thrush is being found all over the immediate area, I hope birders will exercise the same sort of restraint, forethought and consideration when going after this great bird. My own experience yesterday indicated otherwise. Birds tend to be creatures of habit. They do come back to the same place. Patience is a virtue and I hope it is one birders can demonstrate. Also ask yourself if chasing this bird down is going to somehow disrupt its habits an perhaps disturb it, causing it to move on so others cannot see it? While I don't think we birders love birds to death, keep in mind even a bird, needs places where it can take a break without constantly being oggled. Haans ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]