I stopped by east 72nd Street on my may to and from Lorain today. On my way through I stopped about 10:30. There were mainly ring-billed gulls flying around the hot water outlet. There were some gulls on the ice including a 1st winter glaucous gull. The south winds opened up the ice and you could see thousands of gulls out beyond the breakwall. On my way back I stopped from about 4:30-5:30, what a difference. Thousands of gulls close to shore including a lot of herrings. While there were not a lot of white-winged gulls compared with yesterday, it was still good. I ended up with 1 adult glaucous, 1 2nd cycle Iceland, 1 adult Thayer's, and 5 lesser black-backed gulls (2 1st cycle, 1 2nd cycle, and 2 adults). I did not seen any hybrids or the dark mantled herring gull. Still a lot of gulls to look through. Lorain harbor was frozen. There were a few gulls here and there on the ice, but nothing of note. John Pogacnik 4765 Lockwood Road Perry, OH 44081 ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]