Forgive me, for I have misidentified . . . they were white-winged crossbills in Shaker Heights (Bertram Woods Library, at Warrensville Ctr. Rd. and Shaker Blvd. eastbound, Cuyahoga County), not red crossbills. The wingbars should've been a subtle clue. Even to a newcomer. Time for Lenscrafters. Lisle ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]