Those interested only in bird reports can skip this. Two worthwhile threads on other topics may be found on the Siler (ABA) pages for other birding lists, involving eBird, and also "Canada" geese, and I recommend them to others. On the Texas list is an interesting discussion about eBird, beginning with a post from Heindel on 29 March, with many replies following: see http://birding.aba.org/maillist/TX . Second, I've read--even own--Hanson's first book on geese, and found it entertaining but very strange. Now the AOU seems to be considering some taxonomic changes based on its more ambitious successor, which I can neither afford nor look forward to; thankfully, most experts are panning it, as it has apparently grown even stranger. It makes the conceptual back-flips of the Trumpeter Swan Society look reasonable. It continues to claim that huge numbers of species may be involved among the white-cheeked geese. Check out the thread beginning with Wilson's 28 March comment at http://birding.aba.org/maillist/TX on the IDFrontiers site and see what you think. Also see the AOU proposal to reject at least one of Hanson's flights of fancy, last in the list at http://www.aou.org/committees/nacc/proposals/2013-A.pdf . Bill Whan ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]