Hi all -- I suppose once two nest areas were confirmed last season for fish crows in the area, this is not such big news, but a group was heard for the first time in my yard. I am only 2 1/2 miles N-NW from the Green-Cedar Roads nest site. In this group were four staying close together, three of them being quite vocal and two or three others loosely hanging nearby, coming and going. I'm writing to solicit thoughts on the American crow juvenile begging vs. fish debate. I'd be happy to concede that it was really American crow begging calls, but my brief research says it is approximately six weeks too soon for fledglings? I see it is possible for females to beg from the nest at this time, but no nest observed here of any crows and we have two birders next door to each other with eyes and ears always open. Thanks for any thoughts Katrina Heinzen Cleveland Heights ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]