I was birding at Frohring Meadows a couple of days ago. I saw a wren in the marsh area when I was standing behind the wooden blind. Here is my description from the notes I wrote down while I was looking at it: "In the marsh by the wooden blind. Very small like a house wren. Near a song sparrow in the cattails. Smaller than the sparrow. The wren has a cap and a distinct eye line. It is very light/whitish underneath - chin and belly." It was not a Carolina wren or a house wren. I have seen a lot of those birds. This wren was smaller and much less bold than a Carolina wren. It stayed low near the middle to the bottom of the cattails. Is this enough information for a marsh wren? I entered is as a generic wren with the description above. I have never seen a marsh wren before. I have seen plenty of house and Carolina wrens. I looked online at a number of photos and at some guidebooks. I can see that a sedge wren doesn't have the bold patterns like a marsh wren. There have been marsh wrens seen in the Geauga County area in the recent past according to the eBird data. Frohring Meadows has only been open a few years. No reports there yet. But, lots of other birds have been reported in that marsh. Please let me know what you think. I don't really care if I add another species to my eBird list. I am more concerned about accurately recording a wren on my list. I also saw a sora in the marsh that day. There were palm warblers foraging in the fields in various places. A Cooper's hawk took a dive at the killdeer that are usually around the driveway close to the parking lot. Ken ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]