Folks who were interested in recent conversations about dark-plumage red-tails here in Ohio will be interested in the conversation currently on ID-Frontiers about an Ohio sighting at http://birding.aba.org/maillist/IDF . All I'll say is that this seems to be a question better answered by taxonomists with a specimen on the table than by hawkwatchers with nothing but photos and guesswork. Bill Whan Cols ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]