Unsurprisingly, ice is breaking up in the Great Lakes, and the history of our big red-necked grebe invasion may be settling in terms of numbers and locations, but not explanations. I apologize for a useless link to Alan Wormington's thoughtful observations on movements on Lake Erie, and I'd like to add some useful remarks by Carolina birders that have appeared since. Go to the ABA's compendium of state birding sites at http://birding.aba.org/ , check out Alan's contribution to the Ontario site on Hillman Marsh on 3/7, then follow posts to the North and South Carolina list for more recent ones, with different perspectives including the Atlantic Ocean. I'm sure there are plenty of Ohio birders interested in issues larger than their lists, and this is interesting stuff. And a tip of the hat to the fellow who wondered why I was so surprised there are more red-necks in Tennessee than in Ohio... Bill Whan Columbus ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]