I like your comment. It is like when I see people unloading stuff at the recycling center, but leave the car idling... -Kimba J Summit ________________________________ From: Sandra Brown <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] troubling behavior I agree! Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Haans Petruschke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I think we have to realize and come to grips with the fact, that in Ohio at > least, a large percentage of birders don't care about conservation. While > there are many birders who are dedicated to conservation and the > environment as a whole, they are on the tail of the distribution. > > I think the central tendency is to be interested in conservation as it > effect birds and perhaps other personal interests. > > Then there is a group who don't really care. They only care about birds > and their ability to see and enjoy them. They care little about habitat, > air and water quality, and climate change. To a careful observer examples > of this can be seen all the time in the choices these people make in > vehicles, landscaping, and causes. They may do something conservation > minded occasionally to feel good, but for the most part it is not on their > agenda. > > This is very different that it was in the 1960s and 1970's, but as birding > transitioned to sport, the dedication to conservation was in many ways lost. > > What conservation minded Ohio birders can do is set and example and try to > educate and persuade, the non conservation minded. This is a difficult > road but the only one acceptable. > > Haans > > > >> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Dave Watkins <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Exactly! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Skip Trask" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2014 10:10:33 AM >> Subject: [Ohio-birds] troubling behavior >> >> Oh dear, this is quite troubling....I've observed hunters, fisherman >> and anglers for years now....and I've noticed a basic >> commonality....you are a conservationist, or you are not....The good >> guys enter the woods like it was church....quite, observant....eager >> to do no harm....The bad guys cut corners, leave trash, make noise, >> disturb the environment.....birders, fishermen, hunters....no >> differnece....you either are interested in conservation (Not an >> archaic word) or your just outside goofing things up!!! First timers >> and novices may just need a little more education....veterans who have >> been at it and are just slobs that may just need a little fine! Sad >> but true....the old conservation ethic needs a revival of sorts!!!! >> And, no, there is no "special dispensation" for photographers....just >> watch the pros...they get close to their subject by hours of >> concealment, not by taking advantage of a creatures weakest monents >> (nesting/injured/hungry/tired) I followed photographer Ron Austing >> around for a day....he would not stay on a nest when he noticed the >> female was annoyed...he immediately packed up and left! That's >> conservation ethic!! >> >> Laurence Trask >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. >> Please consider joining our Society, at >> www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. >> Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. >> >> >> You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: >> listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS >> Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. >> Please consider joining our Society, at >> www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. >> Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. >> >> >> You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: >> listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS >> Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] >> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. > Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. > Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. > > > You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: > listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS > Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. 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