THANK YOU!!! We need to have a conservation hotline to let people know local issues ( not just birds) and keep us all in the loop to get turn out at important meetings. Any suggestions . LEAP is for landowners but I want to get individuals and conservation groups to band together. But we need to have a venue we can all go to. Would a conservation list serve be possible? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 5, 2014, at 1:25 PM, "bob hinkle" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I would like to add a thought to the Geauga information/request based on > more than 30 years in conservation education: > > Birders and most other enthusiasts tend to be introverts (with a few > exceptions here!). They are by and large NOT the people to attend park > board meetings and express their options/facts/feelings, or to > (Heavens!) picket, protest of otherwise march in protest. And the new > administrations/boards are counting on this. The adrenaline junkies that > use nature for extreme sports don't care about "nature", nor do they > even try to understand nature as you and I do. It has simply become a > place to hold their sport. > > A few think that this is good - it "gets new people into nature" but the > silliness of that should be self-evident to most of us. They don't care > about nature, but they're VOCAL and we're not. And that, unless WE > CHANGE, will doom the peace and quiet, special natural places, habitats, > and everything that we hold dear. Simply because we're not the kind of > folks who express themselves in public. > > It's time to stand up. The mountain bikers are. The extreme sports > people are. Express it or lose it folks. > > Bob Hinkle > Solon, Ohio > > > On 8/5/2014 11:03 AM, Haans Petruschke wrote: >> Hi, >> >> In general at local and country meetings, anyone may attend, but it is at >> the discretion of the government body, if people other than residents are >> allowed to participate in the discussion. >> >> Haans >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Nelson Mostow <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Matt, (or anyone else who would know) >>> >>> I live near Geauga county and do a lot of birding in Geauga but live in >>> Cuyahoga County. Do you have to be a Geauga county resident to >>> participate >>> in the meetings? >>> >>> The implications of this go beyond what is decided in Geauga county. I can >>> see where this kind of activity happening in counties not only all across >>> Ohio, but the entire country, so we as birders need to be involved. >>> >>> Nelson Mostow >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >>> Matt >>> Valencic >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 9:04 AM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Birders: Change coming to Geauga Parks >>> >>> Yes, there is a way for us to facilitate change - get involved by attending >>> as many of the meetings as possible. This is our right and obligation as >>> citizens to participate in the process. I, for one, plan to attend as many >>> meetings as possible and make my voice heard at each meeting in order to >>> get >>> "on the record". If we (birders) participate in this manner our voice will >>> be heard. It's up to the parks system to act once all voices have been >>> heard. >>> >>> Perhaps it would be appropriate to start an off-line conversation on this >>> topic to build support. I would be happy to facilitate that conversation >>> at >>> [log in to unmask] I know a lot of fellow birders who would join >>> the effort. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Matt Valencic >>> Chagrin Falls (Geauga County) >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of >>> Sameer Apte >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:52 AM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Birders: Change coming to Geauga Parks >>> >>> First note: This sure is a pretty incompetent law if the board can't spell >>> "triathlons" correctly. >>> Is there any way that one could contact the board and ask them to change >>> this ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS law, perhaps citing the Eurasian Wigeon and >>> Cattle >>> Egret at Frohring in the last couple months? Perhaps convince them that >>> these Geauga parks are such bird refuge strongholds that they can be >>> persuaded to at least knock out the new amendment that they can build >>> recreational facilities on conservational habitat, as was not before. >>> Take Frohring Meadows as an example--I would be fine if they found a way to >>> put a playground/rec facilities right near the parking lot, but it sounds >>> like they want to spread these things all over the park including near the >>> impounds. >>> Also, they imply, again in a very vague manner, that they would be limiting >>> use of the parks to Geauga County residents only. As a resident of Cuyahoga >>> County, I visit Geauga parks often due to the location of some bird habitat >>> that is not found in my county. In addition, the Geauga parks (and most >>> birding sites in general) receive most of their birding traffic from >>> outside >>> the county, which would greatly limit the amount of influence birders are >>> allowed to put into the conservation effort of the parks. >>> Good birding, >>> Sameer Apte >>> Cuyahoga County. >>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Sandra Buckles <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> I am not sure this is an acceptable listing for Ohio Birds and >>>> apologize >>> if it is not. >>>> I am an avid birder and use the Geauga Parks several times a week. I >>>> live >>> in Geauga County and moved here 16 years ago. I have voted for every Park >>> Levy to preserve this natural gem. But now things are changing. Strategic >>> Planning Meetings for the Geauga ParksIn the June 2014 board meeting, the >>> Geauga Park Board voted to change the Park by-laws so that recreation is >>> now >>> on an equal plane with conservation. There is a series of 5 meetings >>> scheduled to find out how the public thinks our parks should be used. There >>> is a strong push in Geauga away from public land conservation and toward >>> privatization, recreational uses. Many of you on Ohio Birds come to Geauga >>> County. Go to >>> >>> http://reservations.geaugaparkdistrict.org/documents/2014/June-10-2014-Board >>> -Meeting-Minutes.pdf#search="" to read the minutes with the proposed >>> by-law >>> changes. It is not clear if these will be finalized prior to the Town Hall >>> Meetings in September and October. >>>> Some of the proposed recreational additions are ATVs, dirtbikes, >>>> firearms >>> range, gas and oil drilling, mountain biking, skate park and sporting >>> clays. >>> If you use the parks and care about their future, muster your family, >>> friends and neighbors to attend as many meetings as possible. Here is the >>> schedule: Strategic Plan 2015 -2025 Town Hall Meetings:Time 6:00 PM - 8:45 >>> PM 9.11.14 Swine Creek Reservation (Lodge) 9.23.14 West Geauga Library >>> 10.7.14 Bainbridge Town Hall10.23.14 Observatory Park (Science Center) >>> 10.28.14 Kent State Geauga Campus >>>> Sandy Buckles >>>> >>>> "We must strive to touch the land gently and care for it as true >>>> stewards >>> that those who follow us may see our mark on the land was one of respect >>> and >>> love....."( From a trail marker at Settler's Cove, near Ketchikan , >>> Alaska.) >>>> Robert B. 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