Kaufman's and the American Museum of Nat. Hist. both say a California Gull has greenish yellow legs not pink and a red eye ring, but show a 2nd winter Western Gull with the dark ring on the bill. On 8/31/2014 8:25 PM, Cole DiFabio wrote: > Hi, > > When I am looking at these pictures, I am noticing field marks suitable for > a CALIFORNIA GULL. Here are my reasonings: > > 1. As you can see in Chris Swan's pictures here ( > https://www.flickr.com/photos/100129144@N03/14907587127/) with the > Ring-billed Gulls around the dark-backed gull, it looks very similar in > size to those surrounding gulls. A Western Gull is very close to the same > size as a Herring Gull, which is noticeably much larger. Looking at both > links to the pictures, this black-backed gull definitely does not look that > big. > > 2. If you look at the markings on the bill, it shows a solid black tip, > with a red dot on the bottom of the bill. Based on my field guides I am > looking at right now (Peterson North America and Sibley Western Birds), > both clearly show a California Gull with both the black and red markings. > However, a Western Gull shows only a sold red dot. > > Overall, I am calling this a CALIFORNIA GULL. I would like to hear others' > reasonings on this, so feel free to post! > > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:01 PM, Shawn Collins <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> I have posted photos of the Lesser Black Backed Gull...but we all were >> scratching our heads today because it has PINK legs. I posted photos and 2 >> people told me it was a Western Gull. I'm no Gull Expert and if Anyone >> can help w/ the ID.. >> >> Pics are here >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pghdjshawn/ >> >> I have them labeled as "Lesser Black Back Gulls" From today at Conneaut >> >> Thanks! >> >> Shawn Collins >> Crawford County PA >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. >> Please consider joining our Society, at >> www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. >> Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. >> >> >> You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: >> listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS >> Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] >> > > > -- > Cole DiFabio > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. > Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. > Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. > > > You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: > listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS > Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] > ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]