As driving, I saw a short, kinda stubby bird, that was very rusty, and had starling like wings, and had a flap flap,glided glided then flap flap. Just think it might be a woodcock? I very seen one before so I'm posting this Thanks, Dillon Champaign Co ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]