If I had gone out there today, that really woulda been wasted lugging and time! By the way I was not complaining in last mail. I've been lucky, but I have seen other birders very disappointed. Also keep in mind scope lugging is a challenge for some. We all don't have great backs. Happy fall migration. ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]