No we would not. We don't even behave that well when its an expected rare bird that we see every year. So a "First" record I have no faith that we would all "Behave". Perfect example was yesterday when I got to Hoover to check the ruff out I was informed by other birders who there earlier that there was one of our fellow birders out in the water with his trusty kayak chasing the ruff up and down the mud flat trying to get closer and closer with his gigantic camera. Im sure we all have stories like this. I understand you want to add that perfect pic to your collection. But at the cost of possibly scarring the bird away and taking away from someone else's enjoyment who traveled just as far or farther than you. That's just garbage and its selfish. Maybe we should look long and hard and take note of the space they gave the flycatcher. It sure looks like they all got great pics and looks at the bird. I know there are tons of respectful birders and photographers out there that follow the unwritten rule of " give the bird space" but there are always that one or two individuals that want to get closer. Step away from the bird! Bird On!!! Eric Elvert Dayton oh ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]