HOWEVER, yesterdays experience at Hoover getting the Ruff(lifer) was very, very pleasant with everyone very friendly and doing the right thing! As it should be. Manon -----Original Message----- From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of eric elvert Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:37 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Ruff Treatment- Here we go again Well Said!!! On Sep 28, 2015 11:29 AM, "Jeff Harvey" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Each year this topic rises from the dead. The joyful birding > experience is getting harder and harder to have. > Whether it is legal or not -- and I hear this used often to justify > one's actions -- doesn't matter. I don't want to see a kayak, or 20 > kayaks, by a bird; or someone sitting in the field next to a hawk when > I travel a great distance to see a life bird. > The birder conservationist no longer exists. Now it's about the list > or the photo. Not about experiencing the bird and its actions. We all > carry cameras. Most photos of birds have only sentimental value. > I use the best scope I could buy so I don't have to get close to a > bird to experience the wonder and joy it provides me. I know we all > sometimes get caught up in the moment and I can remember every time I > went too far and flushed a bird. Yes, it still bothers me and I try > real hard to remember more birders may be on the way. > If you aren't doing anything wrong, then a photo of you on facebook > won't be a big deal. In fact you will be proud, I am sure. > Birding is now a contact sport and more and more people seem to be in > it for themselves and not the birds. > > Jeff HarveyMahoning County > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. > Please consider joining our Society, at > www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. > Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. > > > You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: > listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS > Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] > ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]