Gulls have such variable plumages that it would be a great tool if those posting about them would include include a descriptor such as adult, juvenile, 1st or 2nd winter, molting, etc. Pat Rydquist, Naturalist, CIG Summit Metro Parks 330-865-8064 ext. 307 [log in to unmask] This message and any response to it may constitute a public record and thus may be publicly available to anyone who requests it. ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]