Well, just below 40N. Adding to the thread regarding the black-capped vs. Carolina chickadee "boundary" and its progression northward: I am looking for the date, which I believe to be in January of 2003 but can't find it in my current records. (I have changed computers multiple times, and database programs once.) I had a wonderful side-by-side comparative view of what I called (and continue to call) a black-capped chickadee feeding next to a classic Carolina chickadee, at my largest feeder, here on the farm in Hopewell Township, Muskingum County. I do not take this sighting lightly, even though I seem to have lost track of the actual record. The bird in question was significantly larger than the Carolina right next to it when I first saw it, with a fuzzy, indistinct lower border to the black "bib," a slightly grayer shade of white to the breast, and whiter fringes to the feathers in the wings. My first impression was that it looked like "a chickadee on steroids." I realized the significance of this large chickadee at once, and I was fascinated. I watched this individual for around twenty minutes, as it came and went from the feeder with the standard assortment of other chickadees and other species. I had no trouble at all telling this singular bird from all the other *Parus* present. I watched, with binoculars and without, from my back door twenty feet away. I have never seen another here, and I do not expect to again. For what it is worth... Bob Evans Geologist, etc. Hopewell Township, Muskingum County ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]