Well said Andy. I would love to have my own personal wonderful in focus photo of a Great horned owl, but would never act in a way to disturb or harm them or their nest for that opportunity. I am not offended as I am not in that group of photographers that behave that way. The little screech owl in CVNP--I walked that path with a terrible limp and bad back 15 times before I was blessed to see him out of the hole. I was not the person that pounded on the tree to try to wake him up just for a photo op. Kimba Justice, Summit From: Andrew Sewell <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Great Horned Owl Roost Sites The Greenlawn Cemetery owl nest has been published in the Dispatch, so noting its existence on Ohio Birds is not likely to be detrimental. However, the original question was about owl roosts, which is different. You can go to a spot where owls are reported to roost and never see them (I've done it countless times). In terms of photographers and behavior, there's a reason the Greenlawn owl nest is fenced off. A few bad actors do tend to result in negative comments about groups in general, which is why we should feel obligated to speak out about unethical or just plain rude behavior when we observe it. Some photographers do act in ways that are not only detrimental to birds, but to birders and people around them. Unfortunately, it is the bad behavior that sticks out in people's minds. No one is going to remember the guy on the Magee boardwalk handholding a 400mm lens, standing behind all the people trying to see a rare warbler, but they are going to remember the guy set up with a massive lens and tripod that you have to squeeze by. And conversely, no one remembers the quiet birders who see the bird and move on; they remember the ones that just had to get closer for a really good look or immediately whip out a recording and ruin it for everyone. When people criticize birders for those actions, I don't feel personally offended because I don't do what they are complaining about. Andy Sewell Columbus, Ohio On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Scott E. Zimmermann <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > We should not be publishing owl nest locations nor should we be belittling > photographers. I am personally offended by the comments about photographers > related to the GHOW and their nest. > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. > Please consider joining our Society, at > www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. > Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. > > > You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: > listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS > Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] > ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]