Most birders are very ethical, conscientious individuals. However, there is a small number of birders that have no problems playing calls/songs during the nesting season. If a person thinks they have to use a recording to get their lifers or photographs, especially during the nesting season, they are not much of a person. We all love birding, but shouldn't there be some common sense barriers to what civilized birders do? John Herman ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]