While I do not belong to the ABA...I do like a lot of their guidelines.: "1(b) To avoid stressing birds or exposing them to danger, exercise restraint and caution during observation, photography, sound recording, or filming. Limit the use of recordings and other methods of attracting birds, and never use such methods in heavily birded areas or for attracting any species that is Threatened, Endangered, of Special Concern, or is rare in your local area. Keep well back from nests and nesting colonies, roosts, display areas, and important feeding sites. In such sensitive areas, if there is a need for extended observation, photography, filming, or recording, try to use a blind or hide, and take advantage of natural cover." I use them sparingly, more to determine if a species is present than to attract. And only in areas where few ever go....like when I'm kayaking alone, or back country roads. More of a "Hey are you here?" Once nesting season is in full swing, the recordings stay off. A couple times a year, I will use them to help someone else get a life bird, but again only in the early part of spring, and only if we are in low pressure areas. What is a low pressure area? Magee, no. Big Island yes in certain areas. Lawrence Woods...maybe...depends on the species. Pishing...I'm a little more liberal on that. Year round, not in heavy areas...and since you are mimicking birds of prey, once or twice is enough, no need to sound like a leaky tire going 50 miles an hour for ten minutes. If against a given park's rules...duh! Anyhew Happy birding and God bless, Steve J On Jun 27, 2017 10:27 PM, "John Herman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Most birders are very ethical, conscientious individuals. However, there is a small number of birders that have no problems playing calls/songs during the nesting season. If a person thinks they have to use a recording to get their lifers or photographs, especially during the nesting season, they are not much of a person. We all love birding, but shouldn't there be some common sense barriers to what civilized birders do? John Herman ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/members hip.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask] ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]