Yeah, an interesting thing that questionnaire is; I couldn't fill it out, because some things I entered as 10 on kept changing on the form as 1. No kidding. The most important thing is money, which is how we often measure the good. The folks who legally enjoy shooting and trapping and hooking animals are regulated, and a lot of the money spent on pleasing them and regulating their pursuits is what ODNR needs. They are not, we must admit, much concerned about the money involved in birders' pursuits, because we don't cost anywhere near as much: it's hard to do more than impose taxes on binoculars on folks who do very little to wear out habitats or remove critters. Sure, ODNR needs lots of money, but a large percentage of it goes to enlist, take care of, and police folks who are killing animals on public lands. Perhaps that's why the questionnaire didn't help me express my opinions. I imagine if birders stopped going afield during shooting season, that would be OK and maybe better for the ODOW folks. But imagine, if you can, how much fewer $ it would cost to restrict hunting, fishing, and other lethal pastimes on public lands. Bill Whan Columbus ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Please consider joining our Society, at www.ohiobirds.org/site/membership.php. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: listserv.miamioh.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: [log in to unmask]