Alfred, I am really interested in getting the tree started but am not very knowledgable on how to. Art said that he would like to organize it and I would like to help it as much as possible. I hope we can get this done. Due to my classes, I may only have the time to make four-six copies for people. I think that I have saved all of the messages regarding the tape tree and if we can find enough parents, the tape load shouldn't be to heavy. Talk to you later John