May I ask Byron Johnson to share with the ATHG listsev group the names and addresses of some of what he calls the many beer-related listserv groups? David Fahey (Miami Univ., Oxford, OH 45056, USA) [log in to unmask] PS: there is a kind of which comes first, the chicken-or-the-egg, dilemma for listserv groups like ATHG; enough and diverse subscribers to exchange a variety of information and opinions, as well as enough and diverse posts to attract and retain subscribers. I hope that you will mention the ATHG listserv group to others as a partial solution.