A specious point as I make no claim of being an organization with a mission
of promoting bird conservation.  That said, I am very comfortable with my
record of practicing what I preach.  I constantly do my best to do the
right thing to protect and preserve and reduce my impact on the
environment.  This includes having a chemical free, bird friendly,  yard
for the past decade.  I encourage my friends and acquaintences to do the
same, but even though they like birds, they still want the Scotts Miracle
Grow version of what a yard should look like.

Haans

On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:31 PM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> As long as we're pointing fingers, perhaps Mr. Petruschke could enlighten
> us on exactly what actions he himself took to organize opposition to
> Scott's.  It's easy to find fault with others after the fact, but rather
> inappropriate to do so if you yourself are guilty of the same charge.
>
> bp
>
>
>
> Sep 7, 2012 09:45:09 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
> Jen,
> >I 'm sorry but not having been alive during a time of revolution, you are
> >clueless about "revolutionary" tone or rhetoric. Any attempt at defense of
> >Scotts Miracle Grow, is simply cowardly poppycock. None of Ohio 's or our
> >National "bird conservation" organizations have had the courage to call
> for
> >action against Scotts Miracle Grow. This is not a case for soft rhetoric.
> > Scotts Miracle Grow violated the law in the most prejudicial manner, and
> >this amoral corporation should be sanctioned as such. It is unconscionable
> >that national, and Ohio based bird conservation organizations, have not
> >called for a complete boycott off this company 's environmentally
> hazardous
> >products. Unless that is, these organizations are receiving funding from
> >this amoral company. If this is the case they have no standing whatsoever
> >as bird conservation organizations.
> >
> >Haans
> >
> >On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:05 PM, JB <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> All-
> >>
> >> Haans, aside from the revolutionary tone you brought to your original
> >> post, there is in fact a valid point glaring from within your original
> and
> >> finger-pointing, hella short-toned note to Ohio-birds. A softer question
> >> could have begun a very intriguing conversation and elicited solid
> >> commentary and answers, and ultimately, action. Example: "what stances
> are
> >> Ohio 's major birding/bird conservation groups taking on the Scott 's
> Miracle
> >> Grow disaster?"
> >>
> >> Each of Ohio 's birding/conservation organizations are working
> tirelessly
> >> and daily on MULTIPLE conservation issues. If we all composed ONE list
> of
> >> the issues we are battling, it would be mind-blowing. I understand that
> >> some issues may seem moot in comparison to the nationwide devastation
> that
> >> Scott 's unleashed, but careful not to undermine the hundreds of other
> >> battles that Ohio and National organizations are going toe-to-toe with
> >> daily.
> >>
> >> I understand you very well. Consider that you did indeed bring up a
> valid
> >> issue, a very large one that could be discussed endlessly, but Ohio is
> >> fighting the good fight on so many massive levels. The Scott 's fight
> is a
> >> good one and folks SHOULD be aware of the devastation caused by hunger
> of
> >> money and ignorance, but to pin fault to Ohio organizations on that
> matter
> >> is a serious bummer, man. Take your energy to aligning with an
> >> organization(s) to trump disasters such as Scott 's.
> >>
> >> While it is absolutely great to question the choices of organizations
> and
> >> voice opinions, know that hundreds to thousands of folks are battling
> >> unsurmountable odds with numerous conservation related issues with often
> >> little monetary backup to go to war with devastating actions of Big
> >> Business. Often we 're fighting with the one thing that guarantees our
> >> triumph: pure passion. Join us. Cheers.
> >>
> >>
> >> JB
> >>
> >> Jen Brumfield
> >> Cleveland, OH
> >> Bird illustrator and birding tour guide
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> www.jenbrumfield.com
> >> www.northnw.wordpress.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 7, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Haans Petruschke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Kim echos my point exactly. How may birds will die because of these
> 1000
> >> > balloons which will likely deflate and photo degrade within 100 miles
> of
> >> > the release point? How many birds were killed by this corporation 's
> >> > insidious pursuit of profit above the welfare of the birds they
> marketed
> >> > their product to attract? Why were no Ohio, or national, "bird
> >> > conservation" organizations, calling for a boycott of Scotts Miracle
> Grow
> >> > products when this criminal violation of pesticide laws became
> apparent 2
> >> > years ago?
> >> >
> >> > It is incredulous that such organizations can be aware of 1000 helium
> >> > balloons being released in rural Ohio, and unaware of a major criminal
> >> act
> >> > that killed countless birds in Ohio, by a major Ohio corporation.
> >> >
> >> > If Black Swamp Bird Observatory, wishes to claim ignorance, it is
> >> > understood as during that time frame it was far more concentrated on
> >> other
> >> > specious concerns. But this does not hold true for the aforementioned
> >> > larger "bird conservation" oriented organizations.
> >> >
> >> > Always the troublemaker
> >> >
> >> > Haans Petruschke
> >> > Kirtland
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Kim Kaufman <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> In response to Mr. Petruschke 's complaint:
> >> >>
> >> >> Having just spent the last 16 hours doing bird conservation work and
> >> >> fighting a 1000 helium balloon release in Van Wert County, I find
> this
> >> kind
> >> >> of blast particularly offensive. I speak only on behalf of myself and
> >> my
> >> >> thoughts do NOT represent any of our other nonprofit partners called
> on
> >> the
> >> >> carpet here, but...Give me a break!
> >> >>
> >> >> The story was broadcast far and wide on Facebook by many of us. And
> in
> >> >> fact, Ann Oliver just posted a link to the story on Birding Ohio.
> >> >>
> >> >> Back to work. My day isn 't over.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kim Kaufman
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >> *From*: "Haans Petruschke" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> *Sent*: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:04 PM
> >> >> *To*: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> *Subject*: [Ohio-birds] Scotts Miracle grow settlement
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Today the Scotts Miracle Grow company of Marysville Ohio settled with
> >> the
> >> >> US EPA for a pittance of a criminal fine of $12.5 million for
> applying
> >> >> pesticides, which killed Ohio birds, to its brand of bird seed. This
> >> story
> >> >> first broke more than 2 years ago, and while the sale of this
> >> >> seed undoubtedly killed countless birds in Ohio, it got nary a
> mention
> >> from
> >> >> the Ohio Ornithological Society, Black Swamp Bird Observatory, the
> Ohio
> >> >> Audubon Society and Chapters, nor national
> >> >> organizations supposedly concerned with bird conservation like: the
> >> >> American Bird Conservancy, National Audubon Society, or Cornell
> >> Ornithology
> >> >> Laboratory. This lack of attention to this issue is absolutely
> stunning.
> >> >>
> >> >> Are these organizations truly concerned with bird conservation?
> >> >>
> >> >> As I did 2 years ago on Facebook, I again call for a boycott of all
> >> Scotts
> >> >> Miracle Grow products. It doubt any of the aforementioned
> organizations
> >> >> will have the courage to do the same.
> >> >>
> >> >> Haans Petruschke
> >> >> Kirtland
> >> >>
> >> >>
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