THANK YOU!!! We need to have a conservation hotline to let people know local issues ( not just birds) and keep us all in the loop to get turn out at important meetings. Any suggestions . LEAP is for landowners but I want to get individuals and conservation groups to band together. But we need to have a venue we can all go to. Would a conservation list serve be possible?

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On Aug 5, 2014, at 1:25 PM, "bob hinkle" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I would like to add a thought to the Geauga information/request based on
> more than 30 years in conservation education:
> 
> Birders and most other enthusiasts tend to be introverts (with a few
> exceptions here!). They are by and large NOT the people to attend park
> board meetings and express their options/facts/feelings, or to
> (Heavens!) picket, protest of otherwise march in protest. And the new
> administrations/boards are counting on this. The adrenaline junkies that
> use nature for extreme sports don't care about "nature", nor do they
> even try to understand nature as you and I do.  It has simply become a
> place to hold their sport.
> 
> A few think that this is good - it "gets new people into nature" but the
> silliness of that should be self-evident to most of us. They don't care
> about nature, but they're VOCAL and we're not. And that, unless WE
> CHANGE, will doom the peace and quiet, special natural places, habitats,
> and everything that we hold dear. Simply because we're not the kind of
> folks who express themselves in public.
> 
> It's time to stand up. The mountain bikers are. The extreme sports
> people are. Express it or lose it folks.
> 
> Bob Hinkle
> Solon, Ohio
> 
> 
> On 8/5/2014 11:03 AM, Haans Petruschke wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> In general at local and country meetings, anyone may attend, but it is at
>> the discretion of the government body, if people other than residents are
>> allowed to participate in the discussion.
>> 
>> Haans
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Nelson Mostow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Matt,  (or anyone else who would know)
>>> 
>>>   I live near Geauga county and do a lot of birding in Geauga  but live in
>>> Cuyahoga County.  Do you have to be a Geauga county  resident to
>>> participate
>>> in the meetings?
>>> 
>>> The implications of this go beyond what is decided in Geauga county.  I can
>>> see where this kind of activity happening in counties not only all across
>>> Ohio, but the entire country, so we as birders need to be involved.
>>> 
>>> Nelson Mostow
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>> Matt
>>> Valencic
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 9:04 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Birders: Change coming to Geauga Parks
>>> 
>>> Yes, there is a way for us to facilitate change - get involved by attending
>>> as many of the meetings as possible.  This is our right and obligation as
>>> citizens to participate in the process.  I, for one, plan to attend as many
>>> meetings as possible and make my voice heard at each meeting in order to
>>> get
>>> "on the record".  If we (birders) participate in this manner our voice will
>>> be heard.  It's up to the parks system to act once all voices have been
>>> heard.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps it would be appropriate to start an off-line conversation on this
>>> topic to build support.  I would be happy to facilitate that conversation
>>> at
>>> [log in to unmask]  I know a lot of fellow birders who would join
>>> the effort.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Matt Valencic
>>> Chagrin Falls (Geauga County)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ohio birds [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>> Sameer Apte
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:52 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Birders: Change coming to Geauga Parks
>>> 
>>> First note: This sure is a pretty incompetent law if the board can't spell
>>> "triathlons" correctly.
>>> Is there any way that one could contact the board and ask them to change
>>> this ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS law, perhaps citing the Eurasian Wigeon and
>>> Cattle
>>> Egret at Frohring in the last couple months? Perhaps convince them that
>>> these Geauga parks are such bird refuge strongholds that they can be
>>> persuaded to at least knock out the new amendment that they can build
>>> recreational facilities on conservational habitat, as was not before.
>>> Take Frohring Meadows as an example--I would be fine if they found a way to
>>> put a playground/rec facilities right near the parking lot, but it sounds
>>> like they want to spread these things all over the park including near the
>>> impounds.
>>> Also, they imply, again in a very vague manner, that they would be limiting
>>> use of the parks to Geauga County residents only. As a resident of Cuyahoga
>>> County, I visit Geauga parks often due to the location of some bird habitat
>>> that is not found in my county. In addition, the Geauga parks (and most
>>> birding sites in general) receive most of their birding traffic from
>>> outside
>>> the county, which would greatly limit the amount of influence birders are
>>> allowed to put into the conservation effort of the parks.
>>> Good birding,
>>> Sameer Apte
>>> Cuyahoga County.
>>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:54 PM, Sandra Buckles <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am not sure this is an acceptable listing for Ohio Birds and
>>>> apologize
>>> if it is not.
>>>> I am an avid birder and use the Geauga Parks several times a week. I
>>>> live
>>> in Geauga County and moved here 16 years ago. I have voted for every Park
>>> Levy to preserve this natural gem. But now things are changing. Strategic
>>> Planning Meetings for the Geauga ParksIn the June 2014 board meeting, the
>>> Geauga Park Board voted to change the Park by-laws so that recreation is
>>> now
>>> on an equal plane with conservation. There is a series of 5 meetings
>>> scheduled to find out how the public thinks our parks should be used. There
>>> is a strong push in Geauga away from public land conservation and toward
>>> privatization, recreational uses. Many of you on Ohio Birds come to Geauga
>>> County. Go to
>>> 
>>> http://reservations.geaugaparkdistrict.org/documents/2014/June-10-2014-Board
>>> -Meeting-Minutes.pdf#search="" to read the minutes with the proposed
>>> by-law
>>> changes. It is not clear if these will be finalized prior to the Town Hall
>>> Meetings in September and October.
>>>> Some of the proposed recreational additions are ATVs, dirtbikes,
>>>> firearms
>>> range, gas and oil drilling, mountain biking, skate park and sporting
>>> clays.
>>> If you use the parks and care about their future, muster your family,
>>> friends and neighbors to attend as many meetings as possible. Here is the
>>> schedule: Strategic Plan 2015 -2025 Town Hall Meetings:Time 6:00 PM - 8:45
>>> PM 9.11.14 Swine Creek Reservation (Lodge) 9.23.14 West Geauga Library
>>> 10.7.14 Bainbridge Town Hall10.23.14 Observatory Park (Science Center)
>>> 10.28.14 Kent State Geauga Campus
>>>> Sandy Buckles
>>>> 
>>>> "We must strive to touch the land gently and care for it as true
>>>> stewards
>>> that those who follow us may see our mark on the land was one of respect
>>> and
>>> love....."( From a trail marker at Settler's Cove, near Ketchikan ,
>>> Alaska.)
>>>> Robert B. Oetting
>>>> 
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